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View Poll Results: Who are you going to vote for this November?

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  • Barack Obama

    8 44.44%
  • John McCain

    6 33.33%
  • Ralph Nader

    0 0%
  • Bob Barr

    0 0%
  • Hillary Clinton (write in)

    2 11.11%
  • Other

    0 0%
  • Not gonna vote

    2 11.11%
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    Originally posted by jca@Jun 9 2008, 07:14 AM
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    A lot of stuff will now come out on Obama. Either bad stuff or REALLY BAD STUFF, i.e. stuff that's true.

    One of the many things which really pissed me off about this election was that the Corporate media's "narrative" which African Americans so cravenly endorsed was that somehow blacks have some kind of monopoly on Civil Rights, victimization, etc., and are by default the moral center of America.

    Rubbish. Garbage. Ridiculous...

    * 1/3 of all women in the US will be sexually assaulted in their life times. :huh:

    * Women make 77 cents on the dollar for doing the same work that men do.

    * Number of black Presidents? ZERO. Number of women Presidents? ZERO.

    * During slavery, blacks had it the worst--not that Indians had it swell by any means. But post slavery, Indians--those with the feather and not the dot :naughty: --had it worst for decades to come. Even now, Native Americans are the MOST LIKELY to be the victims of violent crime in America.

    * More young black men kill themselves in a typical year (or two at the most), than blacks were killed by whites during the entire Jim Crow era. There's no data that I know of, but if one projects todays current level of violence against women, one can easily make a case that FAR more white women were killed by white men during the Jim Crow era than blacks where killed by white men.

    * Granted that in the deep South, there were bogus poll taxes, literacy tests, voter intimidation and even lynchings to keep blacks away from the polls, but the fact remains, black men got the right to vote decades before women did.

    * During the OJ trial, every knew OJ was guilty except black people. Michael Jackson anyone? The list of high profile blacks who get into trouble and race-bait is disturbingly long. Sure, during the Jim Crow era, all white juries refused to convict their fellow white lynchers of blacks, but now...can anyone tell me that whites saw Scott Peterson as INNOCENT? They most certainly did not. Or how about Drew Peterson, Yoran Vanderslut, Phil Spectre, Robert Blake? The point here is blacks are THE LEAST OBJECTIVE people when a black guy who is in trouble, e.g. Hillary had 60-70% of the black vote in December 2007, cries "RACISM!" How can a "black guy" win without the black vote? Obama knew this! :angry:


    Anyhoo, Obama's a TOTAL SCUMBAG... Pass it on.

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    I'm curious... suppose you don't support any of the candidates... would you vote for the one you consider to be the lesser of two evils, or would you not vote at all?

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    I'm voting for the lesser of two evils, McCain. I'm super liberal, but after Hillary dropped out, I'm forced to vote for the old man because I'm sick of Obama and his "poor black man" speeches. He went to Columbia and Harvard. He's not poor! Plus, his wife's a bitch. Other than our differing opinions on the war, I think McCain will make a pretty good president. That's my two cents.
    Faith means not wanting to know what is true. - Nietzsche

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    Originally posted by leone@Jun 9 2008, 09:10 AM
    :lol:

    http://goats.com/store/rfv.html
    I saw the bumpersticker around here recently. :lol:

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    Originally posted by Scythe@Jun 9 2008, 11:21 PM
    I'm curious... suppose you don't support any of the candidates... would you vote for the one you consider to be the lesser of two evils, or would you not vote at all?
    Generally, that's exacty what I do: Vote for the lesser of two evils.

    In this case, I'm not sure who is the lesser of two evils, between McCain and Obama.

    As a diehard liberal, I like Nader a lot and think he should be put on Mount Rushmore for his work as an activists. Nader has saved countless lives by making consumer products more safe. However, what he did in 2000 (and to a much lesser extent in 2004), I think he should be lynched! To say and continue to maintain that the difference between Bush and Gore is that of tweedle-dee & tweedle-dum is tweedle-morally-bankrupt. BIG TIME. If we had a parlimentary system, i.e. not a winner takes all electoral college, then Nader should always run for he & his followers be part of a liberal-left ruling coalition.

    BTW, Nader is flat out lying, even though he's correctly citing exit polling data, when he points out most people who voted for him would have otherwise voted for Bush or not voted at all and so on... Now this is total bait-n-switch BULLSHIT. Nader is way too FUCKING SMART to believe in such non-sense. Political Campaigns 101: If you drive up an opponents negatives, people are going to be less likely to vote for the guy, give less money and so on. But it there's more...

    1. Some would be Gore voters will vote for Nader. (For this Nader, should be lynched.)
    2. Some would be Gore voters will vote for Bush. (For this Nader, should be lynched.)
    3. Some would be Gore voters will stay home. (For this Nader, should be lynched.)

    4. Some would be Bush voters will vote for Nader. (For this Nader should be thank. However Nader did attack Bush a little, but really went after the incumbent Gore the most. The corporate media for its devilish part played up the attacks on Gore--TO HURT GORE, I.E. HELP BUSH. That is Nader was the GOP/Corporate Media's unwitting attack dog.)
    5. Some bitter people who would not otherwise vote went out and voted for Nader. (For this Nader should be thanked...)


    Nader's explanation, a bogus talking point really, doesn't cover scenario's #2 & #3. That Nader's explanation only mentions the negligible damage he did to Bush and the positive result of him bringing out more bitter elements of the electorate who normally don't vote, but says nothing of the negative damage he did to Gore (save for point #1, which he downplays), which the exit polling doesn't examine (or if it did, Nader is ignoring it). In a close election, every vote counts. Taken in its totality, his attacks on Gore did cost Gore the election.

    The corporate media narrative in 2000:

    Bush 2000: Honest man's man. "Uniter, not a divider." "Restore honor & dignity back to the white house".
    Gore 2000: "Serial exaggerator", ambitious, ruthless, "no legal controlling authority"...

    The reality in 2008:

    Bush 2008: $10 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT, $4/gal gas, 4000+ dead in Iraq, Katrina, etc. etc. Divided the country along partisan lines, along Mason-Dixon lines.
    Gore2008: Nobel Peace Prize & even an Oscar for God's sake!


    The Corporate Media's Narrative in 2008:
    Obama 2008: "Brings people together" (Uniter not a divider), "Change" ("restore honor & dignity back to the White House".
    Hillary 1991-2008 & beyond: Ambitious racist white bitch, liar, Tuzla snipers. Husband is a racist white bastard. (If one counts the people indicted & convicted during the the Clinton-Gore years, then the Clinton-Gore admin was one of the most honest EVER! And the Reagan-Bush41 admin was one of the most corrupt of modern presidencies. Bush43-Cheney have been protected by the media, 911 fearmongering, "war on terror" fearmongering, the GOP congresses, etc.)

    It's deja-vu all over again.

    Contrary to corporate media myth, it is none other than Obama who has divided the Dems along RACIAL lines, not Hillary & Bill, who both respectively have stronger civil rights credentials than Obama. (Much of Hillary's civil rights cred concerns women and children as well as minorities, where as Bill has a great civil rights record on minority rights. Only Johnson, Lincoln, Jesse Jackson, MLK etc. would beat Bill Clinton in Civil Rights for minorities. Bill's civil rights credentials for women & children are very strong too, despite his womanizing, which is no different from that of Washington's, Jefferson's, Franklin's, FDR's, JFK's, IKE's or MLK's or Jesse Jackson's.)

    Obama is not the guy he pretends to be. The corporate media know this, they know his secrets, and have hand picked him to be the affrimative action candidate to destroy the Clinton brand, the Democratic Party, thereby electing John McCain. The affirmative action pedestal which they've given Obama, i.e. the Democratic nomination, will also serve as a lynching platform.

    Now that Obama has the nomination, they will systematically tear him apart, both on policy and on legit personal scandals, which they've been sitting on.

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    Originally posted by Scythe@Jun 10 2008, 02:21 AM
    I'm curious... suppose you don't support any of the candidates... would you vote for the one you consider to be the lesser of two evils, or would you not vote at all?
    Generally, that is what I would do, but I'm not voting for the President this year, none of candidates represent anything that is actually important to me. I'll vote for all the local stuff.

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